Pensioners for Independence meet SNP’s Ivan McKee

We join Pensioners for Independence as they sit down with SNP MSP Ivan McKee at the Bacchus Bar in Glasgow for a wide-ranging discussion on the future of Scottish independence.

The conversation covers many pressing political topics, but the key theme that kept resurfacing was the SNP’s upcoming 2025 party conference – specifically the debate on whether a majority SNP victory at the next election should constitute a mandate to seek a second independence referendum, echoing the “precedent” set by Alex Salmond’s 2011 SNP majority.

IVan McKee. SNP. Holyrood 2026. Pensioners for Independence

Indypodcasters Fiona and Marlene also add their own thoughts at the end of the podcast in the light of the subsequent SNP conference decision to back the “SNP majority” proposal

Key topics:

  • 01:41 Ivan McKee opening remarks
  • 11:05 How can we get messages out with a hostile media
  • 12:43 What happened to the rebuttal unit?
  • 15:03 Won’t both votes SNP let unionist parties in?
  • 16:14 Constituency seats vs list seats
  • 18:53 What do we do if Westminster say no?
  • 21:34 Why does SNP not support the ICCPR petition?
  • 24:19 How safe is the Scottish NHS from Westminster privatisation?
  • 26:18 Is US style fascism coming here?
  • 29:25 Why is a majority of SNP+Greens not acceptable?
  • 33:30 All indy parties should include independence in their manifesto
  • 35:09 How will the situation in Northern Ireland affect independence?
  • 36:10 What is the Plan B if Westminster refuse to negotiate?
  • 39:27 Reflections after the event

  • This is the fifth in the series of Bacchus Bar Conversations. Follow this link to find guests from other independence supporting parties.
  • You can watch video version of this and previous podcasts in the series here: Countdown to Holyrood 2026
  • Interested in going along to Pensioners for Indy? Here’s their website

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Ivan McKee, SNP
Episode 10